After Robert Gary made the Athens Olympic team he would tell
reporters after the Olympic Trials that he was going to retire
after the Olympic. Is he...read his answers below.. RUNOHIO
caught up with Robert Gary before he left town for his wedding
on June 24 th .Robert Gary, 31, is a graduate of Evanston Township High School
in Evanston, IL and The Ohio State University. Robert is the
head cross-country and assistant track and field coach at OSU.
Rob won the Illinois State 2-mile and was second in the mile
his senior year. Rob was a Big Ten Champion in the Steeplechase
and broke Bob Kennedy's Big Ten 3,000 meter record with his
7:52 clocking. Rob also was an NCAA All American in cross-
country, indoor track and outdoor track.
In 1996 Rob finished second in the Steeple Chase Olympic Trials
and was a member of the U.S. Olympic team. Rob was a member of
the 1999 and 2003 World Championships team and a 7-time World
Cross Country team member. He won the 2003 U. S. Cross Country
Championships and was runner up in the 2004 U.S. Cross Country
Championships.
Editor notes: Robert's OSU teammate Mark Croghan won the 1996
Olympic Trials Steeple Chase and also ran in the 2000 Olympics.
Robert finished eighth in the 2000 Olympic Trials with an
8:25.87.
The Olympics semi finals in the 3000 Meter Steeple Chase are on
Saturday, August 21 and the finals are Tuesday, August 24th.
Congratulations on earning a return trip to the Olympics...but
before we get to the race, tell the readers of RUNOHIO how the
steeple has gone for you since the 1996 Olympics.
"It has gone well. I have been stuck at 8:19 and have run it
now 5 different times. I have made some world championship
teams and made the finals at USA's every year I've contested
it."
How has your training been going leading up to the Trails?
"Training has gone really well. Leading into the world cross-
country trials, my mileage has gone from consistently 65-75
miles to 90 with the percentage of quality still being the
same. This is a big difference. I didn't just add a bunch of
easy running--my quality workload also increased and that is
something that a lot of runners/coaches miss."
How did the race go for you?
"It went well--I promised myself that I would make sure that
the
pace stayed up because I really felt that there weren't more
than 3 guys (myself included) who could actually run sub-8:20
pace. There was a spot 3 laps into it where we started slowing
and I got the pace going again for 300m and then with 3 laps to
go, I sensed that Steve was falling off and really decided to
try to stay on the pace and led for a lap or so. With one to
go, I snuck a look back and realized we had some serious ground
on 4th. That was a big mistake because I lost aggressiveness
with the hurdles. I pulled even with Fam with 250m to go and
had my eyes set on a hard stretch run on Lincoln, but came to
an almost complete stop at the #3 barrier and from that point
on, I was just trying to survive. I can't remember the last
time I ran my last lap that slow, but I was also very grateful
to make another Olympic team."
What are your goals in Athens?
"The goal for the whole year was to make the Olympic finals. I
tried to hold off on some of the anaerobic/speed work in hope
of sharpening up for only the Games. I do not believe that most
runners can keep their aerobic systems heightened, as I'll need
it to be once this type of work is started. I would be
disappointed if I did not make the finals and the cool thing
is, I think we could very possibly have 3 American finalists
and that would be special."
You have said you are retiring after the Olympics. Do you plan
to retire from running cross-country as well? Will we see you
come out of retirement in a few years? Or see you at a few
local road races?
"I have just said that I expect a great year this year. If I
can end with a great Olympics and a real run at running very
fast in a meet afterwards, I would definitely want to run
steeple for at least next year. I couldn't imagine not running
cross-country--but as far as road races go or what I'll do when
I stop competitive running, I could see myself getting back to
playing some other sports too. I think I've sapped most of the
athleticism, jumping ability, and hand-eye coordination over
the last ten years of only running!"
Congratulations on getting married last month, do you plan to
take some time off from training leading up to Athens?
"A good mileage week (90) and some high-quality fast work begun
is the plan. My fiance has handled everything and really made
the trials as easy as possible. I am grateful for that; she
knows the big goal this year is to make the finals at the
Games."
I know you were kind of sick last year...would you mind sharing
what the problem was?
"I had an ulcer that I caught at World Cross--it was a bacteria
that brought about some acid reflux that made running really
impossible for three weeks after. Looking back and once I've
made the team, I am excited at how ready I feel to jump right
back into training and getting fitter to handle the faster pace
at the Games and beyond."
How was it being at the Trails with two of your athletes; Ian
and Rob, running in the 1500 before your finals?
"It was tough. Ian is running in North Carolina now, but I'll
always want to see him do well. I mentioned to Rob at the
beginning of the year that Rob would need to give me some time
before my race for me to focus on what I had to do. Truth is, I
see a lot of over-coaching at championship meets. Rob is a
terrific competitor and I never worry about his competitive
spirit (this probably goes for the majority of the guys I
coach). We talk quite a bit about keeping things simpler and
having some basic ideas versus trying to "figure out what is
going to happen" when the championship season begins. Too much
wasted energy in that. I have probably learned that more from
the guys on the team than I exhibit myself."
Rob ran a great race and placed third in the 1500. What were
your feelings watching it?
"I won't mention names, but the guy I was sitting next to
remarked that Rob was out of it with about 500m to go. He was a
bit far back, but when I saw him shake his arms out at 400m I
stood up and yelled he'd be no worse than 2nd! I have just seen
him get things rolling too many times! He moved beautifully
from 400 to 100 to go and I have never seen Rob not beat a guy
he pulls even with. Gruber ran a fantastic race and it says a
lot about him that he was able to hold Rob off. Ultimately, it
really reminded of 1996 when Croghan and I finished 1-2; it's
the closest you come to having teammates in what is ultimately
a very lonely sport. When I made the team this time, it was
more a relief; to watch Rob race was a complete joy."
Do you know of any other college coach who ran and placed in
the top three and also had a college athlete they coach place
in the top three at the same Trials?
"I don't think so, but I wouldn't be surprised. Throughout the
Trials action, there seem to be relationships--whether they're
training partners, college teammates, or coach/athlete, where
the all had a fantastic performance. You see it all the time in
college cross-country where this special spirit just starts to
permeate a whole group and result in outstanding performances.
I do not believe in luck in our sport, only running as fast as
you're capable! I don't coach a huge team and never want to; I
want the whole group of distance guys at O.S.U. involved and
working towards something. Only then can special things happen!"
Can you explain the situation on how Rob doesn't have a chance
to make the "A" standard for the Olympics.
"First of all, I know people expect me to be all bitter because
I have an athlete who seems to have been pork-chopped with
these procedures, but I think it is fair. The rules were
decided quite some time ago and weren't tough to understand,
but it does have the feel of a smoke-filled back room as far as
who decided on these rules. I have both loved and at times
hated the finality of track and having to do something at a set
time and set date with only one chance. I have experienced
great thrill and tough heartbreak, but that is ultimately why
our sport is so great. You don't see 100 port-a-johns at
swimming contests or golf or other sports; it's because
distance runners are nervous; they're nervous because they're
invested. Hard training, lifestyle choices, and just the sheer
toil of the endeavor make it so rewarding when it works out! So
while I think the standards procedure is fair--I think it's
dumb. It may be a bit like college NCAA cross-country
qualifying, except the point system there is needed because of
the disproportionate number of quality teams in different
regions. The Trials could be the absolute fairest event. If I
would compromise a change, I would disregard "B" standards.
You'd still name Alan and Grant, but you'd then go to the
highest Olympic Trials guys to fill the 4-person roster and
they'd be allowed to chase the "A" until the date. If Gruber
and/or Rob got the "A," they'd go by virtue of beating Grant at
the Trials. The actual Trials should be no less than the 2nd
thing a selection process draws on. One of the most impressive
things I saw at the Trials was Webb hammering the backstretch
with 700 meters to go! He wasn't trying to figure out how
little he could do and still get to go to Athens; good for him!"
How will the OSU cross-country team be this fall?
"We should be real strong. We'll have a young team because I
plan to red-shirt a couple of our older guys. I hope a level
has been reached where we're always going into the fall season
thinking about the top 15 at NCAA's no matter what we're trying
to do with people's eligibility. We have three of the Ohio
State Champions coming and I hope they'll be as successful as
our others we've had over the last seven years. 2005 will be
very special."
Do you plan to run with the team next fall?
"I'll just be getting back and taking a break. I don't do too
much running with them until maybe outdoor track and usually
just with the guys who are running NCAA's/USA Championships.
We're on different training periods and I always stress the
importance of individualized training here. I mentioned earlier
that I have a very small team, but we've had good success by
making sure each person is actually being coached; I don't see
this happening at tons of schools. Young men hoping to just
be 'kicking it' on our team, do not last long. So, it seems
like it would send a bad message if I were to sacrifice either
one of our training programs."
Do you see yourself coaching the rest of your life or is there
something else you would like to do?
"Definitely. I really enjoy it. Even with the rough times or a
less than great performance, I love the passion that is
constantly present. I can't believe I have a job that I care so
much about. That is pretty special!"
Other articles about Robert Gary, which appeared on RUNOHIO's
web site:
2004 Cross Country Championships:
http://www.runohio.com/news/02-07-04X-C_champs.html
http://www.runohio.com/news/02-07-04X-C_champs_day_2.html
IAAF World Track & Field Championships
http://www.runohio.com/news/08-11-03_gary.html